Everything we see or hear is mediated by our mysterious and fascinating brain. Our mind is capable of seeing the unseen and the unseeable...but it doesn't make it true.
Half banana
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Paranormal Warning
by Cold Steel ini've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.
i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.
what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.
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JW and the Sabbath
by Andromeda inhello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.
i am an active jehovah's witness.
i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.
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Half banana
If you are over twelve years old and you still believe in Noah and a global flood... you have a lot of waking up and learning to do.
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JW and the Sabbath
by Andromeda inhello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.
i am an active jehovah's witness.
i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.
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Half banana
It is infinitely better to know than to believe. Andromeda was chained to the rock of belief.
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Who was the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses? JW Org states it was not Russell
by ToesUp infound this article in the about page on jw org.
i was a born in and was always taught charles taze russell was the founder.
guess i was wrong!
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Half banana
If the JW religion continues as a wealthy cult by teaching "the perpetual imminence of Christ's return"... it will always be necessary to cut off its actual roots since its doctrines only have a short shelf life when they can be perceived as being remotely credible by the faithful. (One can only be astonished at the transparent fraud of the "overlapping generation" excuse!)
They have denounced Russell which really only leaves the unsavoury scoundrel JF Rutherford as the founder, the one who introduced the term Jehovah's Witnesses---having borrowed that term from others.
If this is God's organization I would think God must be desperate to choose this lot.
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Just Sent in My DA Letter!
by Thoughtless inhey, this thread is nothing new so i don't wanna get too personal but i'm happy to announce that i am apart of the 33% club!!
i sent in my da letter this past wednesday (again actually, i sent it in the week before but i got hit with the old 'return to sender') and i sent the letter up to the hq instead.
i did courteously mark it as re: disassociation for whatever lackey got it, but i did request in the letter not be contacted.
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Half banana
Well done thoughtless, but actually you sound more thoughtful to have the need to declare your departure from the cult.
I do suggest you make the best of your education... not only can it be a meal ticket for life but a satisfaction that you can know you are dealing with the real world and bringing reason to all you do...(unless you are studying frisbee decoration!)
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JW and the Sabbath
by Andromeda inhello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.
i am an active jehovah's witness.
i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.
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Half banana
Welcome to the site and congratulations in having the courage to post here and think independently. I also enjoyed your last point!
I agree with Diogenesister to keep researching. Like you Andromeda, I never in my twenty five year run as a JW believed that the scriptures pinpointed 1914, it just did not gel. I also had to rationalise that the Biblical flood was just a story or world myth and not a factual event...it could not possibly have happened since there is not a trace of evidence for a global flood at that time or at anytime for that matter. And so it went on... yet Jesus believed in the flood but it could not have happened? Adam and eve are clearly mythical since according to scientific evidence Homo sapiens have been walking the Earth for at least one hundred and fifty thousand years having descended from yet earlier kinds of human.
So however much you read the Bible, neither can you nor anyone else make a coherent or watertight explanation of it all let alone making a case to keep one day a week holy.
So Andromeda, like your namesake, don't be tied to that terrible rock forever but get rescued by understanding that we are not bound to anything written in the Bible, both it and religion is a human practice devised to keep the superstitious under control.
Become yourself and learn the truth about "the truth".
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Interesting find in the bible last night
by Crazyguy inso i was reading genesis chapter 10 and 11 to see how it explains the man who supposedly is the offspring of noah and he and his offspring become the nation known as egypt.
in some bibles they actually call him egypt.
well as i was reading chapter 10 i noticed something.
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Half banana
Which ever way you look at it it's a fantasy since Noah is only a character in a tall story. He and his sons never existed just like Romulus and Remus the founders of Rome never existed.
It does seem that folk tales were written down which formed the basis of many Bible texts and that very process in itself elevated the tale to a mystical or even sacred status because to illiterate people, written inscriptions were lofty truths.
Both peasants and priests were subject to the magic power of written language.
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This generation will by no means pass away
by Darryl ingood morning i hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
there has been a lot of talk about the "new light" concerning the generation teaching.
it's been a major part of the prophecy concerning the last days and of course since jws are the only ones able to decipher and understand prophecy it is of great importance to get this main prophecy right.
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Half banana
Get used to the fact that the Bible is completely useless in predicting anything.
It was a piece of cult propaganda in the first place and was only ever only useful in manipulating the uneducated and superstitious.
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My heart's not in it
by What is Truth? inyou know how when your asked to talk about something your not interested in how annoying it is, or difficult to debate something from the opposite side of your view.
after learning ttatt i've come to regard the nonsense the org spouts as quite evil then to have to give parts about how great it is makes me hate it that much more.. story aside, what might you say to the elders to get them to dismiss it or get off your back if you told them your heart's not in it any more?.
not the obvious it's a stupid hypocritical cult that needs to be wiped from the face of the earth..
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Half banana
I like the chuckle bit Tiki...
After six weeks of not attending meetings, what I said to the sole elder who came round to find out whether I had turned rabid apostate or not was, "It's just not for me".
In truth of course I had become a rabid apostate and was full of loathing for the Watchtower and anything associated with it and I was so glad to have no further truck with the slimy organisation.
It was then announced at the KH that I was no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses which in retrospect was like a denunciation of my character to my children; that I was now on the devil's side. Also I have no doubt that the announcement served as vindication of my wife's triumph as a brain dead believer and martyr to the cause; which would gain her a lot of sympathy from the faithful. (insert vomit icon)
So WIT, I think that "my heart is not in it" is an honest and rational response and it does not play along with the JW game of blind, unthinking obedience. You are not obliged to elaborate on your reason to the elders.
Eventually it could also start a message which when repeated, will reach the GB and inform them that their religion is useless garbage.
It is very much to the point that millions of JW's hearts are not in their religion.
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How would the world be different if there were no JWs?
by JW_Rogue ini think this would be a great question to ask active jws.
they love to say how the world would be so different if everyone was a jw.
however, what if we flip the question and ask, would the world really be much different if the jw faith never came into existence?
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Half banana
Yes if JWs GB were God's organisation and there was such a thing as a God and he had an organisation; then they would be a vital force ........................ but as it is, if they sank without a trace, no one would spot even the slightest difference to the running of the world .